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#13 xionmark

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 09:07 AM

View Posttallen, on 26 April 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:


But anyone who went to DD or Sony (or R&H) knows about volumetric splining. We could use that in the Sesi repertoire.

Hi Tom,

There's a distinction between the "Voxel Bitch" and "Storm", no?  Not just historical but evolved tech.
The first time I rendered a vb volume in the viewport, and then swing the camera around only to find, a grid!  Ah HA! Damn, there's serious optimizations going on in there!  


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 10:11 PM

I have also worked on Green Lantern, and I had to match closely what was done at Sony imageworks. I did several shots matching the green energy using my own rig done in Maya, with blend shaped curves animated with a cluster of them on top of the blendshape animation, emitting millions of particles with tons of turbulence and very little conserve.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 09:36 PM

Magnus and Nafees did a great presentation on some of the  techniques behind svea and storm, you can find the pdf here:

http://magnuswrennin...lumetricmethods

And hopefully his book will be out soon:

http://magnuswrennin...-to-be-released

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:07 PM

THANKS!! Nice to be appreciated!

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View Postdyei nightmare, on 28 April 2012 - 06:31 AM, said:

no but that light beam  is not the most interesting thing in the movie...

but this effect is:


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:20 PM

Hey y'all! (I'm Jeff Wolverton, I made the 'battery beam' effect in "Green Lantern" you're talking about.) Without going into to too much detail due to Sony's NDA we sign (*cough* ahem, Tom *cough*) that particular effect (just the battery beam; as Tom mentioned there's a lot of beams in GL done a lot of different ways. But that particular effect is just a shader on a flat plane that's at the camera's near clipping plane. In other words, just a single square facing the camera is rendered. So, how the volumetric-ness? This is the fun part: think of it this way-- you don't have to make an entire ray tracer inside a renderman shader, but do this: at each pixel in screen space, get the location of the near point (point at the near clipping plane), call it A, then the position of the farthest point (far clipping plane, or use a depth map made from the stuff in the scene to stop when you hit stuff.) Call it B. Okay, now we just march from A to B and add up "densities". What's the density? That's the fun part-- it's just 'math in space'! You know the X,Y,Z of where ever you are, and you can compare that to other things passed in to the shader (say... two points that define the centerline of a cylinder, and the radius of that cylinder? Hint, Hint?) Then you can calculate distance to the centerline of the cylinder, and with a little math the "angle around" that that point is, and how far "along" the cylinder it is. The make a density function that is some function of that-- maybe start with a sine wave that goes down the length, then add some noise based on the distance to the centerline, maybe some tangents of sines of cosines... you get the picture-- do a zillion tests until you find a function that looks cool (and addresses notes from your Director and CG sups!) You'll have built up some big collection of tan(sin(distance etc., but it'll run fast (computers like math!) AND, since it's just a simple plane & shader and "math in space", it looks cool no matter how close you get to it (resolution independent, no fluid sim needs, no high voxel resolutions, etc! Computers hate dense volumes iterations; slow!) Math in space on a single plan-- good fun! It leads to all sorts of cool stuff and I'm sure I'm not the first guy to think of the trick.

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View Postcw85353741, on 25 April 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

sorry,pic upload
Attachment Green Lantern.bmp
this is reference
Attachment (lighteffect3.mov)00.00.01.486.bmp
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:44 PM

View Postjwolverton, on 06 August 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

THANKS!! Nice to be appreciated!

Jeff Wolverton


BTW- this effect (we called it "TMICE" since the description from the script was just something vague like "...and then Tomar Re makes The Most Interesting Construct Ever") is all copies of simple geometric shapes moving around a trefoil (and some of the shapes are trefoils of trefoils, etc.) Just more of the "math in space" tricks that I'm so fond of! I actually made oodles of different TMICE and this one (the one they picked) was about my third favorite. And the world never gets to see the others! Dang!

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 10:26 AM

Another great volume resource that was announced at Siggraph 2012, DreamWorks Open Vdb.
For effects like this.

http://www.openvdb.org/




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