Rafal123 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've seen this one be accident: http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom...y_id=3478&page= Does it mean they don't use Houdini any more? Strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altbighead Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I've seen this one be accident:http://features.cgsociety.org/story_custom...y_id=3478&page= Does it mean they don't use Houdini any more? Strange 25814[/snapback] ohh noo.. i can't just stop crying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 They did some great commercials using Houdini. Too bad they feel they have to move to Maya. I worked with Andy Hall, and even though he's British, he's pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibarrick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Ignore that last anti british remark completely It's a shame he sites the following reason for moving to Maya Maya works very well as a shared-resource for allowing numerous people to work on the same shot or project in a very clean, concise way. Like you can't in Houdini.... I assume the real reason is you stick with what you know and he knows Maya. Simple as. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADjestic Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 dammit. Or prolly there juts was a shortage of houdini specialists and like 1 or 2 who could really use Houdini and all the rest were saying "maya! maya! maya!"... sigh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I can understand the move to Maya...no need to list/argue about them but the thing that struck me as TOTALLY INSANE was that they're using Maya on WIN XP?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADjestic Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 what was even more dissapointing is that A52 switched to Maya after Hall, a guy from D2(!), came and brought a dozen of maya artists with him... Or was he fired from D2 and that was a kind of vendetta? Or is it a conspiracy of D2 to deviate A52 from the rightous path and get their share of commercials market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJ Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sibarrick that's pretty much it. I've seen it before.. software choice is based on what the supervisor is comfortable with and used in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sibarrick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Sibarrick that's pretty much it. I've seen it before.. software choice is based on what the supervisor is comfortable with and used in the past. 25827[/snapback] Makes sense, I'm pretty sure I'd do the same thing given the chance only I'd switch everything from Maya to Houdini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symek Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 from practical point od view this makes no different, but form PR POV this looks bad. SESI should put out immediatly some material about CG house switching to Houdini . I've realy admired A52 for their previous works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 what was even more dissapointing is that A52 switched to Maya after Hall, a guy from D2(!), came and brought a dozen of maya artists with him... Or was he fired from D2 and that was a kind of vendetta? Or is it a conspiracy of D2 to deviate A52 from the rightous path and get their share of commercials market? 25825[/snapback] Heh heh. He harboured deep-seated jealousy for the mad skillz of the Houdini artists and sought to collapse the system from within. We discovered his plans on floppy disk we found under his pillow and gave the order to have him executed by a squad of shock troops. He was wily and fast and made his escape in a purple Mazda Miata. Did Denis Gauthier leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcronin Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I was telling Jason earlier today that it seems like this is a business plan that always works out well. "We're a tremendously successful, award winning company... but I gots a brilliant idea... Let's hire a bunch of new guys, and throw out our old software and pipeline and see how that goes." Seriously, I'm sure they'll be fine, but I don't understand why comapnies insist on throwing out what works for them when someone "who knows better" walks in the door. Why mess with success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symek Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 on the other hand, this story on CGNews seems to be sponsored. Whole page about changing software pipeline? Long fingers of Autodesk manegment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafal123 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Long fingers of Autodesk manegment... 25844[/snapback] I bet... yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjstanley Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I find the article very strange. It sounds like an interview with someone who has played around with Houdini for a couple days but never used it enough to really grasp what it's all about. I can't see how that change over is going to work very well for them but I guess time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think the "Maya works very well as a shared-resource for allowing numerous people to work on the same shot or project" statement is a slightly misleading phrase. As far as I can tell, Mark Tobin moved everything to Maya because although Houdini also allows for numerous people to work on the same project, you cannot actually FIND numerous people to work in Houdini. Running a small shop, if you have 3 guys, and you want to bid a job that will require 6 guys on the calendar, you will have to take a pass on the job. As far as I can tell, there are fewer than 3 houdini guys available on the freelance market on any given week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADjestic Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think the "Maya works very well as a shared-resource for allowing numerous people to work on the same shot or project" statement is a slightly misleading phrase.As far as I can tell, Mark Tobin moved everything to Maya because although Houdini also allows for numerous people to work on the same project, you cannot actually FIND numerous people to work in Houdini. Running a small shop, if you have 3 guys, and you want to bid a job that will require 6 guys on the calendar, you will have to take a pass on the job. As far as I can tell, there are fewer than 3 houdini guys available on the freelance market on any given week. 26036[/snapback] This is what I thought when read the phrase, mentioning that Hall cam from D2 and brought a group of Maya artists with him. I can't imagine that it could be that "Hall came from D2 and brought a bunch of Houdini artists with him". That's too unlikely. Something out from this world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitallysane Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 There might be various bussines reasons for switching to another app. After all, they stated clearly: the new guy knows Maya, so let it be Maya. But I don't understand why they volunteer to do bad publicity for Houdini, after years of succesfully using it for award winning works. Now it's in VFX World: http://www.vfxworld.com/?atype=news&format=rss&id=16507 So OK, switch to whatever you want, but do your job and shut up. Quote from the article < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 on the other end of that shotgun, with A52 gone, there are even fewer places for those 3 houdini freelancers now. Lets face it, the best thing that could happen is if all the Houdini artists just up and quit their stable jobs and flooded the freelance market, insisting various small shops to adopt Houdini if they want to hire out of this incredible skilled pool of applicants... do the world a favor and train someone up on Houdini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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