Cg Movies

[Rafal123]

Can somebody explain why the most of cg movies are about: lions, penguins, dogs, cats, elephants, rats, koalas, snakes, bears, hippos, etc...? With all respect to all those animals.

I wonder why nobody wanna do something like Final Fantasy with human like characters and not for kids?

Are the animators these days trained for lions animators or penguins animators??? Or is this a market/money issue?

[sibarrick]

There was Renaissance recently that was all humans, but frankly I thought the story was dissappointing.

Kids are less demanding so I guess that makes them an easier market.

[Rafal123]

There was Renaissance recently that was all humans, but frankly I thought the story was dissappointing.

Kids are less demanding so I guess that makes them an easier market.

yea... I forgot about this one, but still it's a tiny drop in an ocean

[Andz]

Can somebody explain why the most of cg movies are about: lions, penguins, dogs, cats, elephants, rats, koalas, snakes, bears, hippos, etc...? With all respect to all those animals.

It's not just animals, there is also the voyage, travel, trip to some new place too.

[exel]

I wonder why nobody wanna do something like Final Fantasy with human like characters and not for kids?

Hehe well funny you should mention it:

http://www.beowulfmovie.com/

(I don't think there's much to be seen on this site yet, but try Googling or IMDB'ing it for more info)

-JS-

[Rafal123]

Hehe well funny you should mention it:

http://www.beowulfmovie.com/

(I don't think there's much to be seen on this site yet, but try Googling or IMDB'ing it for more info)

-JS-

thanks for the link,

Robert Zemeckis, this name sounds great and I love his movies but yea, there aren't enough infos about this movie, we must wait

Would be great to hear what other people think about this, about full CG movies, not for kids, with no smiling, happy and so funny animals. Maybe you want to see a cg movie based on some book or even game with good scenario or something like that. I can give an example here, I would like to see a movie based on older PC adventure game 'Beneth a steel sky' and 'I have no mouth and I must scream'. Both with great scenarios IMO and made this way you wanna play and play and watch. Would be great to take this to cinema.

[sibarrick]

Yeah, I'd love to see someone like Terry Gilliam do a full cg movie and just let his imagination run wild.

[MADjestic]

There's also oncoming Tranfomers (2008?)

[symek]

Do you remember "Final Fantasy"? and its sad, sad story? Actually I'd liked this movie but not too many people had agreed with me, so 200 milion $ baby had to go to sand...

(I think it was too weird for most people...).

Choosing story/character/technics for making a movie was always a big risk specilly in case of hudge budget productions which HAVE to be interesing for wide range of spectators. And the most important part of them are children... If you want yo make movie for over 50milion$ you MUST invite for that show children... overwise you loose your money.

So the only probable solution for your need of serious CG movies is making CG much cheaper (what is still happening and it's not the best thing for you, guys) OR produce SEMI-adult productions - like a "X-Man" or something. The problem here is that all this kind of stuff strongly rely on characters. These all are character driven stories so creating believabe protagonist reamains a primary challenge. Unfortunately this is still most timeconsuming part of 3d work.

On the over hand there is a question what kind of advantage gives you full CG over life-footage? In case of animals stories it's quite obvious. These movies are simlpy "promoted/refined" cartoons. But in other case? What is the sense of creating "real" character in "real" city doing "real" stuff all in CG?

Jumping on the roofs is easier to make in CG. But two talking character... with all emotions, details, nuanse, actors talents... man, this would be hard. Unless you want to achieve some special impression, new look etc. it's hard to imagine sense of doing it now. But in the future I'm sure we will see movied made like that.

CG animation is a successor of stop-motion animation and inherits all benefits of that. It simple gives a narrative and expressive possibities which in real-life action cannot be performed. This is a reason to tell a story that way. If someone find a REASON to make a serious movie in CG and CG would cost much less we will all see such movie...

cheers,

SY.

PS ...and yes! Terry Gilliam is a candidate! But he hates Hollywood and big productions.... "12 monkies" was something about 36milion$... no idea about "Grimms" but it wasn't worth even half of that cost I can hardly imagine he would agree doing something expenssive. And he's too weird also for wider audience. He shoudn't make pop movies, he simply doesn't fit to it. I'd prefer real Gilliam, not in pop-mode.

[Rafal123]

On the over hand there is a question what kind of advantage gives you full CG over life-footage?

thanks for answer Symek, try to imagine huge city like in beneth a steel sky, all environment like in Beneth a steel sky, 3d people walking on the streets, cars, flying stuff in in the air, flying taxi cars, etc

Doesn't it cost effective comparing to real stuff?

[symek]

thanks for answer Symek, try to imagine huge city like in beneth a steel sky, all environment like in Beneth a steel sky, 3d people walking on the streets, cars, flying stuff in in the air, flying taxi cars, etc

Doesn't it cost effective comparing to real stuff?

Movies are not about cities, cars, flying texis, people walking down the street etc etc. Movies are about people! Their lifes, feelings, fears, loves, dreams and so on..! Anything else is a background. There is no difference for a movie if backgrounds are made with mattepainting or in 3d. If you scew up your characters or story, yes, this makes a difference!

cheers,

SY.

PS No, it is not cost effective. It's still much cheaper to combine real-life footage and CG to achieve best and believable effect. But the day will come...

CG sets are effective as long as characters keep distance to it. Close up on details is much easier to make in real. Creating 50 shots of one photoreal character is a challenge for biggest studios. Imagine 1000 shots with 2 protagonist and a view supporing actors... All with decent attention.

cheers,

SY.

[Rafal123]

Movies are not about cities, cars, flying texis, people walking down the street etc etc. Movies are about people! Their lifes, feelings, fears, loves, dreams and so on..! Anything else is a background.

yea, yea... true, but telling more, movies should tell the interesting stories that's all... and yes The Wild is interesting, cool and funny story, and yes Madagascar is also great story but, you know I wanna see CG people

And what is interesting story? IMO it's what make you watch the whole movie, from beginning to the end with no break.

And yea, all (I think) of CG movies "for kids" like The Wild are comedies (may I call them this way?). But there are many different types of comedies. In example: Woody Allen's comedies. So maybe we'll se in the future CG comedy for older people?

Flight Of The Osiris from Animatrix was full CG but the story wasn't the best.

Do I say right or somethin wrong with my brain?

[symek]

Woody Allen in 3d? :shocking: I wonna see it!

cheers,

SY.

PS yes, there is something wrong with you but I'm not sure what..! :thumbsup: