mangi Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Some more leaks: x99 29th of August, 2014 http://www.techpowerup.com/204172/intel-core-i7-haswell-e-and-x99-motherboards-launch-date-revealed.html X99 Boards confirming 128 RAM http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asrock-x99-ws-haswell-e,27461.html "Next to the LGA2011-3 socket we find eight DDR4 memory slots for quad-channel memory that will allow you to install up to 128 GB of memory when using 16 GB DIMMs." Mangi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danw Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I wonder if there's a cap on the maximum non-registered RAM you can install in those. For Sandy/Ivy server/workstation boards, I think they can go up to something like 32-64 unbuffered, but to get above it, you need to switch to server RAM. In fact I think for the really high capacities, it's mandatory to use low-voltage ram too. I know DDR4 is lower voltage to begin with... I wonder if that affords more overhead before you need server features. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malexander Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I believe you can get away with regular DIMMs, but the main issue is heat. Packing 4 DIMMs closely in two banks near the CPU and voltage regulators makes it more difficult to cool. You'll need a case with good airflow, particularly over the DIMMs, to support 8 regular DIMMs. I've actually burned myself on a DIMM by not waiting long enough after shutting down the system. Overheating will manifest as system instability, usually after heavy memory use (big sim, several hours). Individual motherboards will also give additional recommendations for populating memory slots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Good point Mark: http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/corsair-announces-vengeance-lpx-and-dominator-platinum-ddr4-memory.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wbcW__ASbA#t=62 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 http://www.chiploco.com/asus-rog-x79-128-gb-memory-35338 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Cool Magneto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Curios How ASUS & IM(intelligent Memory) are on the Beta Version of the BIOS http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/detail.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=1&m=SABERTOOTH%20X79&cpu=Core%20i7-3930K%20(3.2G,L3:12M,6C,HT,rev.C2)&pcb=ALL&sincebios=0906&memo= IM http://www.intelligentmemory.com/where-to-buy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) Well things are getting really close for the X99 we can confirm the 128 GB Ram on this Board "The socket is surrounded by eight DDR4 DIMM slots (four on each side) which can support up to 128 GB of DDR4 memory with speeds of up to 3300 MHz (O.C) Read more: http://wccftech.com/asus-x99-e-ws-workstation-motherboard-unveiled-features-silver-black-color-scheme-server-grade-8phase-digi-vrm/#ixzz3BiXoRVfs" http://wccftech.com/asus-x99-e-ws-workstation-motherboard-unveiled-features-silver-black-color-scheme-server-grade-8phase-digi-vrm/ looking really cool The chips will be out for sale at fry´s on Monday 1 september got the FRY´s source here: mangi Edited August 28, 2014 by mangi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malexander Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 128GB on a board? Bah - how about 64GB on a stick? http://techreport.com/news/26985/samsung-ddr4-modules-for-servers-have-quadruple-stacked-memory-dies Pretty cool stuff, though I shudder to think how much one of those would cost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 SESI should get you one of those dream machines for test Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) I believe you can get away with regular DIMMs, but the main issue is heat. Packing 4 DIMMs closely in two banks near the CPU and voltage regulators makes it more difficult to cool. You'll need a case with good airflow, particularly over the DIMMs, to support 8 regular DIMMs. I've actually burned myself on a DIMM by not waiting long enough after shutting down the system. Overheating will manifest as system instability, usually after heavy memory use (big sim, several hours). Individual motherboards will also give additional recommendations for populating memory slots. http://www.corsair.com/es-es/dominator-platinum-series-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-dram-2800mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmd32gx4m4a2800c16 Looks like CORSAIR is doing something about the HEAT. mangi just added this (20 minutes later) http://hexus.net/tech/news/ram/73345-corsair-announces-availability-desktop-ddr4-memory-ranges/ Edited August 29, 2014 by mangi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 It says "Kits featuring 16GB modules should become available next year.". I hope other companies launch them this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Hi Magneto, I am wondering if this module would be okay on a x99 system http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=12K-00WZ-00007&cm_re=ddr4-_-12K-00WZ-00007-_-Product EXMAPLE X99 mother board specs: Memoria principal: Soporta ocho módulos DIMM DDR4 2133/2200 (OC) / 2400 (OC) / 2600 (OC) / 2666 (OC) / 2750 (OC) / 3000 (OC) / 3110 (OC) / 3333 (OC) MHz, hasta 128 GB Max. Soporta arquitectura Quad-Channel. Soporta memoria non-ECC, un-buffered. Soporta Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP). Mas informacion en: http://www.pccomponentes.com/msi_x99s_xpower_ac.html Crucial 32GB specx DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) ECC Registered Cas Latency 11 ......... What´s the deal with ECC ??? Edited August 30, 2014 by mangi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malexander Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 ECC uses error-correction to ensure that no bits get flipped accidentally in memory. It makes the system more robust and is often used in servers. How DRAM operates is actually rather scary, storing little tiny charges in transistor-switched capacitors which are rather leaky and require constant refreshing. ECC can detect single-bit errors and correct them. Non-ECC doesn't have any sort of error correction, and often used on client and workstation systems. Memory errors are rare, so it's generally not an issue for those uses, especially since you pay for ECC in either power or performance. Incidentally, the X99 platform and the new Intel CPUs for them have been released - the i7 5960K (3-3.5Ghz 8core), 5930K (3.5-3.7Ghz 6core) and 5820K (3.3-3.6Ghz 6core). The sweet spot is the 5930K (~$600), and the debut of a 8-core 5960K is really long overdue ($1G). But the low-end part has been bumped from 4 to 6 cores and comes in just under $400. If you don't need 40 PCIex lanes (dual GPUs), that seems like a pretty decent buy. Review 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) Cool Mark So http://www.msi.com/product/mb/X99S-XPOWER-AC.html#hero-specification + Crucial CT16G4RFD4213 16GB DDR4 PC4 2133 ECC Server Memory + should work OKAY ? Edited August 30, 2014 by mangi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 Those new i7 CPUs on intel's webpage say, max memory is 64GB though. Is that true? http://ark.intel.com/products/82931 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangi Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Ya Plus those 16GB modules stick that are ECC I guess we hit a dead end , and will have to wait until the NON ecc ram 16GB modules come out , & then see if they will work with the i7 Once again the waiting game. this is for the I7 zeon = ecc okay + $$$ Mangi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Any more news guys? I see samsung making 128GB single memory DIMM claims but nothing material: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/192711-samsungs-new-20nm-ddr4-clears-the-way-for-massive-128gb-dimms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magneto Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hi, Do you guys think if this is a good system if you were to buy it now? I am posting to see people's feedback so that I can see how much the best price/perf system for Houdini is gonna change in 6 months and 1 year I added 2 SSD because I remember someone (Mark?) saying a raid setup for the system drive or one for system, one for paging, virtual drive would make Houdini super fast. Or is it better to do that using 2 drives in a raid 0 (?) setup and a small SSD for the system? Discuss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tar Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Currently I'm running SSD for the system and a raid 5+ (I think) 4disk raid over eSata - both disk setups give around ~220MB/sec read/write. It's a good system on MacPro cheese grater but you can go a lot faster these days. Anything like this kicks butt over a standard 7200rpm drive. Edit: I should add that I also did previously have a 2 disk raid 0, it was getting 220MB/sec read and 160MB/sec write. Edited November 25, 2014 by tar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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