Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 See the screenshots to see what's going on. In the OS X preview one side of the wheels seems totally screwed up. And the other side of the wheels a little. In 'Storyboard Pro' it really is a mess.. See the third screenshot to see what i've already tried. Here is the file if you want to take a look. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5lxoqbyl39ksbze/Begin3%20byebye%20nose_bak1.hipnc?dl=0 Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 it's copy1 after the subnet that has the wheel you're scaling by -1 to get the mirror...when you could just try the Mirror SOP so... subnet mirror SOP - default parmeters then your copy2 SOP HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Thanks for your reply. That actually helped a bit, but now they are still both a 'little' screwed up. As you can see in this screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mbu8vmw89ntq25/Screen%20Shot%202016-03-29%20at%2016.17.42.png?dl=0 And in Storyboard Pro it is still the same. So something must be wrong, and i can't understand what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'll just post it here. On the backside of the wheel and the frontside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 try this one - I used the normal SOP and then changed it to create vertex normals byebye_vNormals.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 Unfortunately. Screenshot Storyboard Pro, Finder Preview, Finder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 gha.... I know for a fact that I have huge troubles with obj files at home on my mac...but I'm not sure that is the issue here... I'm inclined to think that Storybook Pro is to blame... is it able to import other file formats? are you able to import the obj in another application and see if it's bad there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) May be a Storyboard Pro bug indeed. But I downloaded 3D coat, and there it is also like the Finder Preview. Still something wrong with the wheels SBP can import *.osb, *.3ds, *.obj and *.fbx. I think you need the commercial version of Houdini for fbx right? because it was greyed out. Edited March 29, 2016 by DévinOdforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krion Posted March 29, 2016 Author Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) When i export a part very early in the chain of the wheel i get this Tried a reverse SOP but didn't work, it made the viewport and the export black. Seems like backface culling or something is occuring in the OBJ export Edited March 29, 2016 by DévinOdforce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f1480187 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Inverted normals and "black geometry" problem is super trivial and easy to fix. I'll try to explain how to avoid it. Turn on the Display Options window with D key, go to the Optimize tab, on the Culling grouping check Remove Backfaces. Turn off backfaces while modeling. Personally, I would prefer never to see double-sided geometry in the viewport, but disconnected points are not displayed then. Your geometry is non-manifold. See how tires and rims are inverted and spokes are facing properly. Note opposite situation for wheels on another side. That's why you should consider other ways of mirroring, or even copy and rotate wheels without any mirroring, like for real wheels. More specifically, spokes was modeled with reversed winding, then fused to the rims. Polygon's "facing" and normals are different things in Houdini. When you reverse geometry with an existing N attribute, the geometry turns black, because you also need to negate/recompute the N. In other apps it can be achieved with a single "flip normals" operation. You generally should correct the winding in-place by using the Reverse SOP or reversed selection order of entities you perform operations on, reversing checkboxes on used tools, etc. There is no general way of fixing it, since there is no "correct side" on models, but plenty of ways suitable for different cases. So, how to fix. You have bad topology and normals in spokes's connections, so fusing points (changing topology) and recomputing normals (destruction of existing ones) is not considered bad, I guess. So, just fuse all points, reverse/orient polys and compute fresh normals. If topology-changing operations are prohibited, use Reverse SOP and negate normals by selecting geometry manually. For more procedural setups, just inserting reverse nodes in-place is the fastest way. Storyboard Pro problem is different. It looks like that the program imports objes with reversed vertex order or expects only triangulated geometry. Try triangulate, reverse, triangulate+reverse options, or use FBX. Blender can import and export FBX and OBJ too. manifold.hipnc Edited March 30, 2016 by f1480187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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