/mat context node clutter

[RayFoundry]

Hi there,

 

I'm using Arnold and Redshift as thrid-party render engines in Houdini. The new /mat context is very nice with one big exception - third party renderer nodes are all displayed along with the Mantra nodes in the /mat context.

An example would be the Multiply node. I have one from Mantra, one from Redshift and one from Arnold when I hit the TAB key in the /mat context. And no way to differentiate between them before placing. 

Now my question:

* How are you handling this situation?

* Is there some way to filter? (I know that I can just drop a Material Builder and inside it, it's all filtered for Mantra. But then I can't drag noise nodes to the viewport for example and it's generally a bit of a workaround IMHO)

 

P.S.: I know that Redshift and Arnold don't support the /mat context yet fully. This is about shading with Mantra from the /mat context.

 

Many Thnaks,

Daniel

[Sepu]

Redshift support the MAT context completely now, usually redshift materials and textures they have a prefix RS so if you start typing RS when you press the tab you will see all of the redshift materials, etc. The only one that doesnt have a prefix is the "wireframe" which Im sure is just a mistake. Not sure about Arnold.

[RayFoundry]

4 hours ago, Sepu said:

Redshift support the MAT context completely now, usually redshift materials and textures they have a prefix RS so if you start typing RS when you press the tab you will see all of the redshift materials, etc. The only one that doesnt have a prefix is the "wireframe" which Im sure is just a mistake. Not sure about Arnold.

It supports it - but I would call it "fully". You still have to wrap the shader into a "RS Material Builder". The prototyping aspect of the new /mat context is lost for me because of that. Actually I wonder what the difference is to using a material in shop context tbh.  

Regarding the RS prefixes: True. In Arnold it's sadly not prefixed.

P.S.: In Mantra, if you change a material property of a material this is reflected in IPR - even if the material is set through a material stylesheet. For Redshift it's not (when using material stylesheets). No big deal, but again not quite "fully" integrated.

[Sepu]

you dont have to put it inside RS_material_builder at all, the option is there if you want to do that. Just like the "material_builder". I do not use the RS_material_Builder almost never now that Im in Mat context. You can do everything that you want in the Mat context without the builder.

Edited September 19, 2017 by Sepu

[RayFoundry]

18 minutes ago, Sepu said:

you dont have to put it inside RS_material_builder at all, the option is there if you want to do that. Just like the "material_builder". I do not use the RS_material_Builder almost never now that Im in Mat context. You can do everything that you want in the Mat context without the builder.

I must be doing something wrong. If i create a RS_Material in the /mat context and set the material in a Material SOP in the Geo, the material is not rendered. If I put the RS_Material into a shop context, it works. I'm on Redshift 2.5.30 and Houdini 16.0.705.

Edited September 19, 2017 by RayFoundry

[Sepu]

You gotta use the "Redshift_Material" output like this 

 

[RayFoundry]

11 minutes ago, Sepu said:

You gotta use the "Redshift_Material" output like this 

 

Great! Thanks for guiding me into the right direction. Works