Sops And Ndc?

[hoknamahn]

Hi guys,

How to calculate an intersection of some vector in the point (SOP context) with the NDC plane (or with the plane which can represent the NDC)? Say I have some piece of geometry and some vectors on the points, for example normals. I want to continue that normals to intersection with NDC. I know there is no NDC in the SOP context but it is possible to create the plane which can represent it in some way. Any suggestions?

[sho]

Hi, hoknamahn

You can use toNDC() in OP context. Something like,

Pndc = toNDC(camera, P);
Nndc = toNDC(camera, P+N) - toNDC(camera, P);

Though I'm not sure if there is VOP node, you can use InlineVOP.

Cheers,

Sho

[hoknamahn]

Hi, hoknamahn

You can use toNDC() in OP context. Something like,

Pndc = toNDC(camera, P);
Nndc = toNDC(camera, P+N) - toNDC(camera, P);

Though I'm not sure if there is VOP node, you can use InlineVOP.

Cheers,

Sho

Is it well defined? Because I see in the help:

Transforms a position into normal device coordinates. This space is only well-defined for the Displacement, Surface, and Light contexts.

[sho]

Well, I don't know what does "well defined" mean...

But, when I used it long time ago to generate some attributes for sprite, it worked fine for me.

Just one thing I remember is the "P" needs to be object space even if the object is transformed.

I might be completely wrong though...

[hoknamahn]

Well, I don't know what does "well defined" mean...

But, when I used it long time ago to generate some attributes for sprite, it worked fine for me.

Just one thing I remember is the "P" needs to be object space even if the object is transformed.

I might be completely wrong though...

Okay I will check it. Thanks Sho.

[Jason]

Okay I will check it. Thanks Sho.

Hi there,

This might help you a bit: http://odforce.net/tips/velocity.htm

[MADjestic]

Hi there,

This might help you a bit: http://odforce.net/tips/velocity.htm

Oh, Jason, great data, thanks for the link.

I know it has been there for long, but first like >50% of it was too sophisticated and tech for a newbe, now I can re-explore some of the key-concepts. Thanks for this kicker.

[old school]

Sho is correct in that you have to be sure that global P is in world space when using the default toNDC() in the SOP context.

Reworked vel_blur slightly so that it will compile in H8.1:

void
toNDC(vector p; float zoom)
{
	float z;
	z = zoom / p.z;
	p *= set(z, z, 1);
	p += {0.5, 0.5, 0};
}

sop
vel_blur(matrix camera=1; float focal=50, aperture=42)
{
	float zoom;
	vector p0, p1;
	vector screenV;

	zoom = focal/aperture;
	p0 = P;
	p1 = P + v;
	p0 *= camera;
	p1 *= camera;
	toNDC(p0, zoom);
	toNDC(p1, zoom);

}

[MADjestic]

Oh, good, old school, thanks. Sexy stuff.