cs00bren Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 hello there. i'm trying to create a battle scene with foot soldiers. i was wondering if anyone could give me some information to geet me started or know any good sites with information. i guess you have particle system with the soldiers instanced to them and use a chop network with boolean switches to change between predefined animation cycles. but i don't really know where to start any help would be good. Cheers bren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anakin78z Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 http://cade.scope.edu/courseware/notes/hou...dini/index.html this would definetly be a good place to start. Also, I believe sesi has a skeleton crowd file somewhere.... I'd probalby also look for some papers online on crowd behavior. I've seen some really nice stuff.... http://www.red3d.com/cwr/steer/Unaligned.html this site seems to have some really cool stuff on it. You could probably also check out some books on computer gaming. Hope that helps! Jens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 For a basic example, try looking at the demos that come with apprentice. There is a skeleton demo in there. Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel m Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 yep, in apprentice. Those guys are too smart and fast to be living dead monsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 Well, with limited time and budget its all I had to work with . And they were way cooler than Mr Primitive Man who was attached before them. eh well... Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguel m Posted January 17, 2003 Share Posted January 17, 2003 The scene is a very fine example (praise the admin, praise the admin ) . No really, from the time i looked at it I thought it was a bit shocking at first for non houidiers. I spent a good while playing with the rayed path and the metaballs (a force field if i remember well), etc. And zombies... much better than the omnipresent School-O-Fish too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 haha... yeah well. The whole story is that I built it for a demo for SIGGRAPH. Meaning that only the person driving the demo needed to know how it worked. So I kindly explained it to them and then proceeded to forget about it. Approximately one year later (much to my surprise) I saw it included on the apprentice cd. Personally I wouldn't have put it there.... but there you go . At the very least I would've cleaned it up a bit and commented it nicely to try and give some direction to the poor noob who tried to use it Anyhoo, no ones complained so far (that I know of anyway) l8r Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 Hey Marc, You can still clean it up with more comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted January 18, 2003 Share Posted January 18, 2003 ah, if only it were that easy..... sigh..... ... You know, its like I always say : Its best to let dead dogs lie.... er... or is that sleeping? hmmm, never can remember which. Well either way, you'd better not mess about with them, things could get messy. Marc Contains real cheese admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs00bren Posted March 10, 2003 Author Share Posted March 10, 2003 Marc - I've been looking at you crowd simulation and i understand the switch SOP part of the simulation and can get my own SOP stuff looking good but it's the pop's network that's the problem at the moment. i have three custom attribute's that i create there are dead, fight and shot. i have to particle system one for army A and the second for army B. i want them to interact. i want them to march to each other then fight/ shot each other then die. So the first question how can i get the two particlew system to interacteve. the second is the way that i want them to interact is then they get a certain distance apart i want the asttribute fight to change to 1. ubt only for the particles that are close to each other. i also want the particles to rotate to the nearest oppositte arm. tehn i want the other particle(Soldier) to die set teh attribute dead to 1 for just that particle. i think i need to use the ID for each particle but i tryed to get a pop net to work and i just started to get lost. any help would be good. sorry for th elong message bren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs00bren Posted March 11, 2003 Author Share Posted March 11, 2003 please can some one answer i'm need hitting my head against my desk for week please help bren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 hey there... rereading your post, it seems that you're trying to do a highly complex simulation. And I'm not entirely sure that Houdini's particles can handle that kind of behaviour out of the box. All the examples I've heard of with complex behavioral systems have had some sort of coding attached to them. The demo that I built is fine for what it is, but it definitely won't cope with much more (in fact, try tweaking some parameters and you'll see it all goes to pot very quickly). um.... anyone else have any advice? marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs00bren Posted March 12, 2003 Author Share Posted March 12, 2003 Alas this is what I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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