vi_rus Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Hello everyone, let me show my new tool for fracturing. It's all based on volumes, without cookieSOP. https://vimeo.com/56722980 Hope you'll like it Edited January 5, 2013 by vi_rus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gui Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 very cool! did with python? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks! No, I used python expression only one time, but it was insignificantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gui Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 wow! just with houdini sop tools?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 5, 2013 Author Share Posted January 5, 2013 Exactly SOP context is really powerful in houdini 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarus Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 impressive, does it handle uv's/textures/etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Yes, it supports uv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anim Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 that's very cool did you use Volume Break SOP as your main cutting tool or something more clever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 Thanks. No, I'm not so clever, so I used volume break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anim Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I;m surprised that it is so fast, I was using it for smaler breaks and it felt slower (I probably I used unnecesairly dense SDFs ) so I thought I will need to wait for OpenVDB volumetric fracturing, but you proved me wrong, thanks for that CVEX defined cuts are great idea as well, lot's of artistic control, good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) I'm also waiting for open vdb. Will be interesting to compare with current volumes. Edited January 7, 2013 by vi_rus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scratch Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Impressive! Congratulations! The only problem/downside I see is that it creates complex/non-convex shapes as pieces, so it will be hard to use in conjunction with the new bullet solver. RBD has no problem with that, but Bullet relies heavily on convex hull approximated collision geometry. For bullet, non-convex geo is very difficult to handle and produces neraly everytime nasty problems during simulation (popping/exploding simulations due to interpenetrating geometry when the model is fractured, but still in tact in the beginning). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 You're right. I afraid this problem also when was creating this tool. But as you can see from my video(3:40;8:13) it's possible to solve with bullet. I just created glue object from the shelf and that's all. I did test with 1500 pieces and it was really fast and stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oslo Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 And about open vdb. I am compared some operation and openvdb very fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 7, 2013 Author Share Posted January 7, 2013 It's great! I use volumes all the time in houdini. What's about memory comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgstar Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) OpenVDB is nice, and fast (faster than houdini volumes). Not sure about memory though. They haven't put in the hermite grid stuff yet (they have in the sdk afaik, just no sops yet), which will help with fracturing and normals. Right now when you recreate the mesh, all of the fragments end up with very visible seams at the edges, just like converting regular Houdini volumes back to meshes. I don't think it'll be as fast as what you have there though. I'm going to update my openvdb and play around later. Edited January 8, 2013 by Solitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 OpenVDB is nice, and fast (faster than houdini volumes). Not sure about memory though. They haven't put in the hermite grid stuff yet (they have in the sdk afaik, just no sops yet), which will help with fracturing and normals. Right now when you recreate the mesh, all of the fragments end up with very visible seams at the edges, just like converting regular Houdini volumes back to meshes. I don't think it'll be as fast as what you have there though. I'm going to update my openvdb and play around later. Thank you for indicating at this problem. I saw this and already fixed. Soon I'll upload video with new features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) I wasn't even mentioning it for yours, but the normals are a good thing to look out for. I was mentioning it more for when doing it with open vdb and volumes. The volume break method you are using creates a cleaner edge than going from sdf to mesh, which creates bad edges. That's the main issue with doing volume based fragmenting right now. When they add in the hermite grid support, it should make seamless mesh recreations as I understand it. https://vimeo.com/47126128 shows the hermite grid method. Here's the paper -- http://ken.museth.or...-etal_SIG12.pdf Edit: fixed vimeo link. Edited January 9, 2013 by Solitude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vi_rus Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 (edited) First link gives an error. Yesterday I engaged that problems with seams and now it's almost insensibly(IMO). Take a look at the pictures please. Edited January 9, 2013 by vi_rus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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