DaJuice Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Ok, I'm having some problems with Apprentice 6. I was trying to add some fog to my render in COPs, so I specified the P channel in the deep rasters. When I inspect the P and Alpha channels in the COP viewer they look messed up. Here is the render, looks fine... Here is the P channel, it's offset to the left for some reason... And here is the alpha, I don't even know wth that is... I've tried this on 3 different comps, all with the same results. Am I doing something wrong, or is it a bug? And btw I tried this in 5.5 and the alpha channel looks ok, but it doesn't seem to render P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Does all the planes look OK in mplay? Or is it messed up only in COPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJuice Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 Hmm, it looks fine in mplay, just COPs is screwed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Was this initially rendered to mplay first and then saved from mplay? If so, could you try rendering directly to a .pic file without going through mplay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 I wonder in the .pic is corrupt or the reading of it is bad? Could you attach it or point to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJuice Posted April 9, 2003 Author Share Posted April 9, 2003 It seems Edward was right. The file became corrupt when I saved it through mplay, go figure. But all is well now, thank you sir. Sooo, mark this as another undocumented feature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9 Posted April 9, 2003 Share Posted April 9, 2003 Dajuice....tis an *enhancement*, Mark is just making sure we are all on our toes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJuice Posted April 10, 2003 Author Share Posted April 10, 2003 Hehe, how thoughtful, this is what makes the Houdini community the tightest out there (except maybe for those fanatic lightwave bastards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old school Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 In H6.0.249, saving the image from mplay then loading it in to halo works, excpet that P swaps for N and N displays constant white. Still busted but in a different way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward Posted April 10, 2003 Share Posted April 10, 2003 Ok, now fixed in 6.0.266 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJuice Posted April 11, 2003 Author Share Posted April 11, 2003 Cool, thanks for the heads up. For what it's worth, here are the results of my tinkering. Straight mantra render... After messing around in COPs... And the COP network... Any tips/suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 can you combine the 2 colorreplace nodes? not sure how Houdini calculates things but it might make things faster... is it just me (a friend just got a job a Meteor - so I've been drinking ) or does the background bluring look like motion blur rather than DOF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 11, 2003 Share Posted April 11, 2003 I like the images, Da Juice - very nice indeed. Did you formulate the displacement using VOPs or VEX? Also, I'd like to see a better exponential fog effect on it, just to give it that added touch of realism. Of course the DOF make it seem pretty small which would counter the fog effect, but I'd rather see a larger sense of scale. I'd also assume that the better way to do it would be to apply the Fog BEFORE the DOF effect. I'm sure the munged-up Z info after DOF would make the fog less accurate. Cheers, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaJuice Posted April 11, 2003 Author Share Posted April 11, 2003 Lol arctor, you're not that drunk, I just set the blur size higher on the Y than on the X. I through in the DoF for the hell of it, trying to see how much I can change the image. I would have done more if I new what the hell all the other COPs did. Not sure about the colorreplace thing, I wanted one of them to affect the darker shadows, and one of them to affect the greenish rocks on the left. The displacement is just the standard vex riverbed (I really should practice some more VOPs). You're absolutely right about putting the fog before dof, I wasn't paying attention. What I was actually trying to do was shift the color values in the background to a red-ish hue, but I didn't feel like figureing out which cop did that, so I settled for additive fog which worked pretty well. Thanks for the tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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