NoaX Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Hey everyone, Today I have a rather simple question, I'll provide my current file as well as use screenshots to quickly get across what I mean by 'Vellum input geometry update per frame.' Step 1: A disc: I've animated Arc End, creating a disc that closes itself, I have also grouped the inner edges. 2. Result A curtain if you will taking the shape of the disc. What I would like: I require the disc to animate into the full circle and retain the vellum effect, essentially creating a circular curtain that closes itself. However Vellum only takes the input geometry from frame 1. I have played with rest blend, but did not get it work. Here is my file: vellum_circle.hiplcFetching info... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fencer Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Rough idea to rebuild geo and constraints on fly. vellum_on_fly.hipFetching info... Edited October 1, 2020 by fencer 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicvvsh Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 10:46 PM, NoaX said: What I would like: I require the disc to animate into the full circle and retain the vellum effect, essentially creating a circular curtain that closes itself. However Vellum only takes the input geometry from frame Expand Hi, there is Match Animation check box on your vellumconstraints1 sop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoaX Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) On 10/1/2020 at 5:14 AM, fencer said: Rough idea to rebuild geo and constraints on fly. vellum_on_fly.hipFetching info... Expand Hey Fencer, Thank you for taking the time to review this. The solution you have working is quite cool, a bit tricky with multi solver setup - so currently trying to reverse engineer so I fully get it. The idea of using Point deform inside the sopsolver1 and 2 and then merging them.. Nice! I have a follow up question: Here in this file I've moved your vex curtain to the right, and I've added a simple disc using labs tool (I've also made gravity go up, and pinned the inner edges) -- but you'll notice it doesn't complete the full animation cycle it stops simulating around frame 20ish. Of course, If I edit the frame on enable solver it will try to do something. Would be curious to see what your solution is, maybe one will come to mind after I've fully grasped your file =)! vellum_on_fly.hiplcFetching info... Again thank you Edited October 1, 2020 by NoaX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fencer Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 12:31 PM, NoaX said: Hey Fencer, Thank you for taking the time to review this. The solution you have working is quite cool, a bit tricky with multi solver setup - so currently trying to reverse engineer so I fully get it. The idea of using Point deform inside the sopsolver1 and 2 and then merging them.. Nice! I have a follow up question: Here in this file I've moved your vex curtain to the right, and I've added a simple disc using labs tool (I've also made gravity go up, and pinned the inner edges) -- but you'll notice it doesn't complete the full animation cycle it stops simulating around frame 20ish. Of course, If I edit the frame on enable solver it will try to do something. Would be curious to see what your solution is, maybe one will come to mind after I've fully grasped your file =)! vellum_on_fly.hiplcFetching info... Again thank you Expand Maybe keep faking like this. vellum_on_fly_v02.hip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobini Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) hospital cubicle curtains... Edited October 2, 2020 by Noobini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoaX Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 9:05 AM, Noobini said: hospital cubicle curtains... Expand Oh, nice one. Did you use Fencer's technique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobini Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) On 10/2/2020 at 2:14 PM, NoaX said: Oh, nice one. Did you use Fencer's technique? Expand i wouldn't know tbh, cos I just went off on a tangent on my own...here's my RnD file if you'd like to dissect. It uses mirror, so not (2) real pieces of cloth mutually reacting...but I just wanted a quick proof of concept, the gist is there. (inspired by my stay in hospital Sept 2019, true story) vu_CubicleCurtains.hiplcFetching info... Edited October 2, 2020 by Noobini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobini Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 the curtain movement along the railings is from here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fencer Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 9:12 PM, Noobini said: the curtain movement along the railings is from here: Expand I guess the idea is to rebuild a geo on fly, not just stretch or animate position. Here is good example https://zybrand.xyz/vellumcontinuous-emit-with-dynamic-constraints#more-324 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoaX Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 10:50 PM, fencer said: I guess the idea is to rebuild a geo on fly, not just stretch or animate position. Here is good example https://zybrand.xyz/vellumcontinuous-emit-with-dynamic-constraints#more-324 Expand Exactly. I'm currently working on my take to achieve this, will share the file when bug free =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM_2020 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 10/3/2020 at 7:37 PM, NoaX said: Exactly. I'm currently working on my take to achieve this, will share the file when bug free =) Expand Anything ever become of this? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM_2020 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) On 10/1/2020 at 5:14 AM, fencer said: Rough idea to rebuild geo and constraints on fly. vellum_on_fly.hipFetching info... Expand Mate, you are a god! Been looking for this for ages... works decent with a carve! Thanks so much! Edited November 11, 2021 by HM_2020 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wh_Rose Posted July 10, 2024 Share Posted July 10, 2024 Hello there! I just found out this amazing thread and... Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for! Thank everyone for sharing the ideas. I want to ask how to make the carve thing work. I tried but after a short while the simulation started to explode. Could you please share your workflow HM_2020? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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